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This is ganked from [livejournal.com profile] blythechild, [livejournal.com profile] draycevixen and who knows how many other people by the time I finish typing this ;-)

1. Choose a fandom from the following list: ACD Sherlock Holmes; Almost Human; Battlestar Galactica; BBC Sherlock; Buffy the Vampire Slayer; Cabin Pressure; Caprica; Castle; CBC's The National; The Clangers; Community; Eternal Law; Father Ted; Jane Austen (all); Life on Mars; Monty Python; Sleepy Hollow; Warehouse 13. There, that should be enough to suit anyone!

2. Comment here with one of the above fandoms.

3. I will tell you the following:

• The first character I first fell in love with
• The character everyone else loves that I don’t
• The character I love that everyone else hates
• The character I used to love but don’t any longer
• The character I would totally smooch/get friendly with
• The character I’d want to be like
• The character I’d slap
• A pairing that I love
• A pairing that I despise
 

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Date: 2014-04-03 09:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] togsos.livejournal.com
I want a Clangers Battlestar Galactica crossover fic like burning after seeing your list!

Battlestar Galactica please

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Date: 2014-04-04 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chamekke.livejournal.com
Clangers go with everything!

OK, to Battlestar Galactica.

The first character I first fell in love with: Laura Roslin. In the pilot, she's so far from being prepared to run things it's not funny, NO ONE takes her seriously at first - but she knows the job's fallen to her, so by God she learns as she goes. And Laura learns fast.

Plus I immediately admired her humour, her humility, and her commitment to the primacy of civilian government - although of course Laura is not perfect and ventures into morally grey areas quite often as the series progresses.

The character everyone else loves that I don’t: Lee Adama. Most of the time I found him somewhat flat and two-dimensional. And OK, infidelity, but his betrayal of Dualla left such a bad taste, I can't even. Although he redeemed himself a bit by defending Gaius ata the trial >:-D

The character I love that everyone else hates: I'm not sure how hated he is by fandom, but Number One/Brother Cavil was FABULOUS. Such evil snarky goodness.

The character I used to love but don’t any longer: Eep, I'm not that actually happened with me. Maybe Chief Tyrol? My affection for him waned after the Revelation, for whatever reason. I did think he was awesome as Union!Man!Galen, though.

The character I would totally smooch/get friendly with: at the moment I'm thinking Starbuck. She'd be a terrible influence in lots of ways, but she's brave, a loyal mate and would be great fun to get drunk with.

The character I’d want to be like: A mixture of William Adama, Laura Roslin, and Romo Lampkin.

The character I’d slap: Gaius. Who doesn't want to slap Gaius? He's eminently slappable.

A pairing that I love: Mmm, probably Adama/Roslin... the way they developed that beautiful, deep mutual respect and affection.

A pairing that I despise: the early days of Saul/Ellen made me cringe. Ellen's death on New Caprica was a masterful touch of tragedy, though. (I'm still not sure what I think of the Cylon-reveal aftermath.)

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Date: 2014-04-04 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blythechild.livejournal.com
Wow, you and I have pretty much the same views on many of these characters.

Weeeeeeiiiiiiiiird. *spooky fingers*

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Date: 2014-04-05 01:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chamekke.livejournal.com
I read your blog comments on BSG and was trying hard not to duplicate them, but it was no use because we are braintwinned on Apollo and Cavil. And a good many others apparently.. *shifty eyes*

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Date: 2014-04-03 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] draycevixen.livejournal.com
Sooooo many to choose from. *flails* All right, Sleepy Hollow.

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Date: 2014-04-04 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chamekke.livejournal.com
*cracks knuckles* All right, then.

The first character I first fell in love with: Ichabod Crane. He is the most adorable fish-out-of-water. It's that lethal combination of honour, innocence, puzzlement and surprisingly flattering ancient trousers physical attractiveness. (If he looked like the canonical Ichabod, it might be a harder sell ;-)

The character everyone else loves that I don’t: Katrina, although do that many people actually love her? Anyway, I don't hate her, I just think she's a rather tired plot device to amp up Ichabod's angst (and produce a baby). Also, Katrina is remarkably uninteresting given she's a powerful Quaker!witch and all. (Although I'll cop to being fascinated by her magically self-renewing limbo eyeliner. I would totally buy that stuff.)

The character I love that everyone else hates: I don't think anyone falls into this category, so maybe I'll just say Bad Hessians. They are so ridiculously implausible and stupid and Bad, I find myself rooting for them.

The character I used to love but don’t any longer: again, I don't think anyone falls into this category. Maybe Henry/Jeremy, except that I didn't warm to him very much to begin with. But I definitely like him even less now that he's really chewing up the scenery and his parents.

The character I would totally smooch/get friendly with: definitely Ichabod or Abbie. They're both delightful.

The character I’d want to be like: a blend of Abbie's courage and commitment, Ichabod's innocence and optimism, and Jenny's incredible perseverance and bad-assery.

The character I’d slap: Luke Morales. What a complete dick.

A pairing that I love: I'd say Ichabod/Abbie except that I sort of love their friendship exactly as it is.

A pairing that I despise: Andy/Moloch. That warped and abusive relationship just HAS to end. Floppy-necked reanimated corpses unite!
Edited Date: 2014-04-04 04:58 am (UTC)

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Date: 2014-04-04 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blythechild.livejournal.com
Poor Andy. Poor, karmically-fucked Andy...

The Bad Hessians make me laugh until I pee a little. Sometimes my husband sees my hilarity and asks what's going on with me and all I have to say in order to explain it is "improbable Hessians" and he totally gets it ;)

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Date: 2014-04-05 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chamekke.livejournal.com
*nods* I keep expecting the network to be hit by a lawsuit by the Hessian Anti-Defamation League. Honestly, what's keeping them? If I were a Hessian I'd think about it. Easy money.

My husband took his degree in American revolutionary history (and is British!) so he's a great deal of fun to watch the show with. Even if he's a bit embarrassed for liking Ichabod (traitor to the mother country and all that ;-)

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Date: 2014-04-04 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] draycevixen.livejournal.com

Pretty much agree with everything about Ichabod although I'd also have to emphasise his intelligence and snarky sense of humour... I'm nothing if not predictable. *g*

My understanding is that Katrina is pretty much hated by the Abbie/Ichabod stans which is exactly what makes me want to stand up for her... or at least Ichabod's love/honourable actions towards her.

Poor Luke. *g* Actually, he's such a plot device of a character it's difficult for me to feel much of anything for him.

I have no ship in this canon but I'm in total agreement about Ichabod/Abbie and I think it's one of the reasons why I like that Katrina exists. Erm... the way US tv shows tend to go if Ichabod was actually available I'm wondering how long it would be before the show was doing the "will they won't they?" with Abbie and Ichabod.

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Date: 2014-04-05 07:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chamekke.livejournal.com
Pretty much agree with everything about Ichabod although I'd also have to emphasise his intelligence and snarky sense of humour

Oh hey! Those too! Did I leave those out? Oops. Yes, his snark power is considerable and all the more impressive because he employs it sparingly and with precision :-)

The Ichabbie stans are the one reason why I was a bit reluctant to 'fess up to not liking Katrina. I don't dislike her (too strong a word perhaps? I 'meh' her) because she stands in the way of true luv, it's because she had potential and they're simply not using it.

Not to mention I want to know what she gets up to in limbo! The time Ichabod goes there, and you see all these menacing figures lurking in the gloom? So... what happens the rest of the time? Do they fight with each other? Is it all just grr argh? Do they work out their differences by thumb-wrestling? And where does Katrina fall in the pecking order? The creators can't entice me with all this purgatorial world-building and then just stop there.

Luke, yeah, as you say he's just a walking plot device. But as plot devices go, he's tiresome and I'd wish he'd disappear.

That said, your point is well taken about Katrina's usefulness as a plot device to keep Ichabod and Abbie "just friends" so I should be grateful to her for that at least. (Not that I'm necessarily opposed to a 'ship eventually but I've seen too many Moonlighting scenarios over the years to be convinced they'd do something wonderful with it.)

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Date: 2014-04-05 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] draycevixen.livejournal.com

I always forget to mention the precision part of snark but it's hugely important. Characters who are written as always snarky are tiresome because they become two dimensional in the process, even though I love snark.

It can't be their whole personality. Bodie, Gene, Finch, Ichabod, Illya are all given to snarky humour but it's not their response to everything.

And again, I agree about Katrina. I really wish they'd make use of her. I'm hoping we'll learn more about limbo next season, particularly as Abbie is currently trapped there.

I've been trying to think of a show where the "will they, won't they?" didn't go on too long and wreck a show... Erm... Bones perhaps? Still, that show developed so many other problems in the process.

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Date: 2014-04-06 06:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chamekke.livejournal.com
Characters who are written as always snarky are tiresome because they become two dimensional in the process, even though I love snark.

It can't be their whole personality. Bodie, Gene, Finch, Ichabod, Illya are all given to snarky humour but it's not their response to everything.


So we're of one mind on the timing and proportion of snark. Good to know *g*

I'm hoping we'll learn more about limbo next season, particularly as Abbie is currently trapped there.

*nods* Hopefully she's whipping her fellow limboites into good law-abiding citizens right this minute. That lass is redoubtable.

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Date: 2014-04-04 12:30 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] isiscolo.livejournal.com
Cabin Pressure!

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Date: 2014-04-04 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chamekke.livejournal.com
OK, bearing in mind that I still haven't hearad most of the final season, right? So if Herc runs off with Mr Birling in the last ep, leaving behind a broken-hearted Carolyn, I reserve the right to make some edits ;-)

The first character I first fell in love with: ooh, this is hard because they're all instantly lovable, but - Arthur. He's so happy and optimistic. You have to love someone who is perpetually surprised and delighted by the most trifling things.

The character everyone else loves that I don’t: not applicable. I love everybody! Unless it's maybe the Canadian passenger from Qikiqtarjuaq, and then only for nitpicky pronunciation reasons.

The character I love that everyone else hates: wow, this list is going to be finished very quickly, because again: not applicable.

The character I used to love but don’t any longer: ho-hum, not applicable.

The character I would totally smooch/get friendly with: Hercules. He's such a ridiculous romantic, plus he loves opera ♥

The character I’d want to be like: Arthur for his cheerfulness, Martin for his aspiration, Douglas for his self-confidence. Plus maybe Birling for his wealth.

The character I’d slap: Carolyn's ex, the awful Mr. Shappey.

A pairing that I love: Martin/GERTI. A pairing made in heaven! (Runner-up is Carolyn & Hercules, of course.)

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Date: 2014-04-04 03:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] isiscolo.livejournal.com
I actually haven't heard the final season at all, so I'm right there with you! And I ship Carolyn/Herc but had never thought of Martin/GERTI, heeee!

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Date: 2014-04-05 07:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chamekke.livejournal.com
Come to think of it, Martin's primary relationship is probably Martin/Flying In General. But Martin/GERTI is its actual, erm, physical expression. So to speak ;-)

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Date: 2014-04-04 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blythechild.livejournal.com
You fan The National???? I have lusty-bad thoughts about Amanda Lang but I can't imagine Peter Mansbridge or Wendy Mesley or Ian Hanomansing doing it for me (ok, Ian isn't so bad...)

*ahem* Anyhooooo... I choose Almost Human.

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Date: 2014-04-05 07:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chamekke.livejournal.com
Well I don't fan The National as a whole, but... *stubs toe* like you I do find Amanda Lang ridiculously attractive. Every time I see her, Moe Szyslak goes off in my brain: "Hey, I'm looking for Amanda Huggenkiss! Ah, why can't I find Amanda Huggenkiss?" Sigh.

And also I have the intellectual hots for Terry Milewski. Every time he comes onto the screen, my husband says delightedly, "Eyebrows!" and then we count how often his eyebrows go up and down. (That's nothing to do with the intellectual appreciation, it's just a fun sidebar.) He's also got a wicked side of snark that I sort of love. I'd totally wear a Milewski T-shirt if I could find one.

And let's not even talk about how much enjoyment the chaste on-screen flirtations of Mansbridge and Claire Martin have given us over the years. *sob*

But that's not what you asked about. So, on to Almost Human.

The first character I first fell in love with: Dorrian, naturally. It's that lethal combo of innocence, sincerity and snark. And of course he does human - compassion, emotional vulnerability, decency - consistently better than the biologically human beings on the show. (BTW I'm sure the title isn't just a reference to Dorrian - it's also about Kennex [bionic leg), Stahl (chrome), and anyone else who embodies liminality in some way. My guess is, eventually that'll be ALL the main characters ;-)

The character everyone else loves that I don’t: in danger of echoing Drayce here, but - Kennex. I'd like to love him, but I'm still waiting for him to develop. He's too damn ARMOURED to get close to. Shoot, I feel closer to Rudy than I do to Kennex... which is a disturbing thought.

The character I love that everyone else hates: I dunno if anyone actually hates him, but - Richard Paul. My first taste of the Cardboard Jerk phenomenon was Frank Burns on M*A*S*H and since then I react badly whenever someone is written as two-dimensionally dickish. So I was a bit irked about Paul in the first few eps... until "Straw Man" came along, and we saw that he actually has a kind side when no one is watching. That was just AWESOME.

The character I used to love but don’t any longer: not applicable.

The character I would totally smooch/get friendly with: awww, Dorrian. *nuzzle*

The character I’d want to be like: Dorrian again. He's really my hero in lots of ways. Also I want his X-ray vision!

The character I’d slap: maybe Maldonado, in that ep where the killer "gets under her skin" by implying she's not a real woman because she is single, has a career etc. No, scratch that, I want to slap the writers for putting a female character I respect in that position. Plus it's the late 21st century, for God's sake, has nothing changed? Anyway I just don't buy that Maldonado as a person would be subject to those self-doubts OR would be that easily manipulated.

A pairing that I love: Kennex/Dorrian, or maybe I should say Kennex+Dorrian because the bromance is gorgeous just as it is. )Although, as I am perverse, a side of Paul/Dorrian wouldn't go amiss >:-)

A pairing that I despise: Kennex/Stahl. They're too alike in their reserve, Stahl has that whole Spock thing going on (or rather: Number One), and just - no. They teased each other for a whole season, it went nowhere and was annoying, and I sincerely hope they abandon it for a more nuanced collegial relationship next year. Assuming we get a Season 2, of course. *crosses fingers*

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Date: 2014-04-05 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blythechild.livejournal.com
Oh god, Amanda... She was supposed to host a live round table session at a financial event that I was working and I was sooooooo excited. Then she had to do something else and CBC sent a replacement instead. That woman is smart and sexy and doesn't take crap from people (like that ass O'Leary). Yep, epic girlcrush is epic.

I never thought about Mansbridge and Martin until you mentioned it but they DO flirt often, don't they? Holy shit, I cannot start fanning The National....

When it comes to AH, I just want Stahl gone. Her and her long tresses and Chrome chip on her shoulder thing. Not interested at all. I, too, was pissed about the insecure Maldonado episode, but was so because it felt OOC and not for the deeper feminist reasons that you pointed out. Now I'm angry all over again.

I want to be Dorian because I want to flip a van ;)

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Date: 2014-04-06 08:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chamekke.livejournal.com
I can see why you'd be excited. Smart and sexy and doesn't take crap is attractive to me, too. Pity she didn't show :-(

Holy shit, I cannot start fanning The National....

Don't worry, there are too many stupid things about it to fan it completely. (Husband and I have given to chirping "And there's a Canadian connection!" at odd moments because we've heard it on The National so regularly.)

This is where I don't say anything about my imaginary Evan Solomon/Mark Kelley RPF...

I, too, was pissed about the insecure Maldonado episode, but was so because it felt OOC and not for the deeper feminist reasons that you pointed out. Now I'm angry all over again.

Yeah, the first thing was that it was outrageously OOC (that was not Maldonado), but it was just - so deeply insulting all round, too.

Stahl is tiresome as she's been written so far. They hint and hint at more complex motivation, but just don't show it, and... meh, tease me too long and I get fed up. So I'm with you, please remove her and pop in a female character with some colour to her personality. (I wish they'd done a female Rudy, you know? The geek-scientist-funny-creepy-person doesn't always have to be a guy.)

Dorian is a man[droid] of many powers and I hope they show us many more of them. But so far van-flipping is the most awesome. *nods*
Edited Date: 2014-04-06 08:06 am (UTC)

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Date: 2014-04-04 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saintvic.livejournal.com
Hmmmm right then, how about Castle.

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Date: 2014-04-05 08:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chamekke.livejournal.com
Castle? OK then!

The first character I first fell in love with: it's a close call, but - Kate Beckett, for her toughness, intelligence, humour, and eye-rolling amusement at Castle's melodramatic imaginings. She's a remarkably patient person, really.

The character everyone else loves that I don’t: not applicable.

The character I love that everyone else hates: I don't know who everyone hates (I'm not in the fandom), but, erm: maybe Sidney Perlmutter, the grumpy medical examiner? He's a hoot. Or hey, Cpt. Gates. She was somewaht abrasive when she was first introduced and I know a lot of people didn't take to her, but she's actually pretty awesome.

The character I used to love but don’t any longer: this is maybe a horrible confession, but I'm becoming a bit tired of Castle. I don't hate him or anything, that's impossible as he's basically pretty lovable, but he doesn't surprise me any more and that's an unfortunate quality in a main character.

The character I would totally smooch/get friendly with: hmm, Ryan maybe? He's very cute.

The character I’d want to be like: Martha! She lives her life with such zest, plus despite her theatricality she's capable of deep insight and tenderness. It'd be fun to be Martha.

The character I’d slap: Ryan and Esposito, for not seeing that THEY ARE MEANT FOR EACH OTHER DAMMIT.

A pairing that I love: *cough* Ryan/Esposito. Javi and Kevin are so friggin' cute together, I can't even. If someone could magically lift a dollop of BBC Sherlock's fanservice and insert it here, that would be lovely.

A pairing that I despise: "despise" is too strong a word, but because artifically manufactured jealousy is a trope I'm really not fond of, the Castle/ex storylines are something I'd happily do without.

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Date: 2014-04-05 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] draycevixen.livejournal.com

I picked Permutter too. :D

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Date: 2014-04-06 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chamekke.livejournal.com
Did you? Eep, I forgot to go back and see if you'd received more requests on your thread. *prepares to trot on over*

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Date: 2014-04-05 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] severinne.livejournal.com
I'm sneaking in late from two LJ-free days but I can't not take you up on the offer to dish about Caprica...

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Date: 2014-04-06 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chamekke.livejournal.com
Sev! *embraces*

Well I'm unbelievably rusty on Caprica these days (which is weird as I feel much less so with BSG), but let's see what I can do...

* The first character I first fell in love with:
That's a tough one as I didn't warm immediately to any of them. Maybe Zoe, since I thought she was very honestly written - a properly bratty daughter, sometimes very brave, other times heartbreakingly naive, and (like Daniel) possibly too clever for her own good. She was a peculiarly compelling heroine.

• The character everyone else loves that I don’t: tough one to answer, as I didn't follow the fandom and the only other person (save you) that I knew who watched Caprica was my husband. Umm... maybe Daniel? I felt sorrier and sorrier for him, but also annoyed at his selfishness. I guess you could say I didn't love him, but I loved watching him ;-)

• The character I love that everyone else hates: I enjoyed Sister Clarice no end, partly because she's such an improbable character (virtuous schoolteacher as monotheist terrorist) but also because, hey, Polly Walker. She always brings tremendous gusto (and vulnerability) to her baddie roles and looks like she's enjoying them to the hilt.

• The character I used to love but don’t any longer: hmm, tough one. I'm a bit disappointed in Lacy for taking on the role of Blessed Mother? My feelings towards Amanda fluctuated a lot during the series but I ended up respecting her more than at the beginning, so... that's a reverse answer, really.

• The character I would totally smooch/get friendly with: maybe Barnabas, but that's because of who he was played by ;-) Nah, I'm not attracted to any of the characters, which is ...fairly rare, actually. But I think it'd be amazing to have Lacy as a friend - another courageous and clever female character, yay! - provided she'd be as loyal to me as she was to Zoe, that is.

• The character I’d want to be like: Tamara, maybe. She was pretty kickass. I have to admire a girl who finds herself in a virtual universe and, despite her initial terror, manages to turn the whole thing around and RULE.

• The character I’d slap: oh, so many of them! Ben, for starters, for being such a damn stupid kid.

• A pairing that I love: I'd have liked to see Zoe/Tamara (that image of them together side by side on the ramparts in V-world was such a powerful one). Plus I'd also like to see Joseph/Daniel, mainly because it would thrill you to bits but also 'cause you've convinced me it could be hot.

• A pairing that I despise: I suppose most of the pairings (or, in Clarice's case, multiplings) are pretty dysfunctional, but the one that really hurts to remember is Zoe/Philomon. That little episode was just so horrible and agonizing to watch.

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Date: 2014-04-06 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] severinne.livejournal.com
Yay, Cham-Cham! *hugs*

I can see why you would struggle more with Caprica than BSG - only one season *sniffle* and really way more plot threads to track that weren't necessarily resolved to satisfaction (at least, that's where I think you get crap like Lacy as the Blessed Mother...).

Also, I can see now in your answers just how ambiguous nearly everyone was. It was a fantastic cast of very messy characters so "loving" any one in particular would require overlooking some serious flaws. None of them play well in a polarizing love-hate-good-bad world view, which is all the more reason why I loved the show so much. That, and the very idea of Joseph/Daniel was deliciously distracting in all its attraction-repulsion (remember that boxing scene...? OMG).

Oh, Zoe/Philomon... *whimpers*
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